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Postby exuprider » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:36 pm

Now that I've finished my Mini Chief build I've been inspired to build a little powered model from seeing the Micro Tyro in the current Aeromodeller, and having a small plane I can pop across the road with and 'fly' on the green opposite ;)

I've put 'fly' in quotes as I yet to fly - although I did try the Lidl glider today. Arrived at the sight and the rain suddenly hammered down :cry: Got absolutely soaked through, but the sun came out a few minutes later, so thought as I was there (dripping) I'd have my first go after trying some free flights to check balance. Unfortunately I was getting intermittent rudder control (I found later the signal wire for the rudder servo had broken :x ). So will try another day.

Anyway, I've chosen the Pageboy as it's a very simple build, and contrary to what's stated on Outerzone it's actually 15" span and not 12". The build article states that even a clipped wing version at 8" would do a free flight landing. I'll stick with 15" and keep it very light and hope for some nice slow flights on clam days :D

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Here's the fuselage so far....


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Here's the original
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Will keep you posted,
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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby Tobe » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:29 pm

The PageBoy is amazing model and trust me as I had quite many of them...is one of those models that carries a sticker: When I grow up I will be a bad a** model.
If you build it for single channel just follow the plans but if you opt to add an elevator you need to give the stabilizer about an additional 1/16 positive incidence. You will find out it will turn tail heavy so on mine I have lengthened the nose about 1/2 ".
It actually fly better with the under carriage as shown on the drawings.
If my memory....there should be 3 of my former PageBoys flying in the UK
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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby tiptipflyer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:45 am

The Pageboy is one of my favorites. I use it not only for years now, but for decades. The first 20+ years it was powered ba a Cox PeeWee and the last 10 years by a brushed electric motor. It was rudder only proportional, but the last years, I fly it strictly S/C. I use the Pageboy quite often to check out a new S/C transmitter. It is truly a great flyer and can even withstand windy weather.
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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby exuprider » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:37 am

Thanks Tobe and Frank for sharing your Pageboy experiences and pictures :). Seeing more recent 'colour' pictures of it and hearing how well it flies has raised my enthusiasm even more :D

Mine will be rudder only, and if you look closely at the fuselage, you'll see I've added a vertical slot ready to accommodate the servo to operate a torque rod. I will be using the Hobbyking GPS-8 motor and gearbox https://hobbyking.com/en_us/micro-power ... -8-1s.html, along with the HobbyKing 3A Single Cell ESC for brushed motors https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbyking-3 ... otors.html along with a single cell lipo. Just waiting for the motor and ESC to come from Hobbyking, but have found items arrive quite quickly from them. I opted for the Hobbyking unit as it has mountings that allow you to fix it to the firewall former, and it appears that it worked really well for the Micro Tyro in Aeromodeller 8-)

What the plan doesn't show is where the CG is :roll: , so if anyone can suggest where a good starting point would be, that'll be a great help.

Anyone else have a Pageboy?

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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby Tobe » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:57 am

PhilG and Shaun have one and there is also one down i Oxfordshire

A safe CG for a non lifting stab is 25% to 30% for a start
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbyking-1612-brushless-outrunner-3200kv.html
My favorite is this one and it's what I use in most of my smaller modells, it can be safely run both on 1 as 2 s . If I fly S/C I normally stay with 1 s & 4025 prop and if I add an elevator I go for 2s & 5030 prop. With a few exception I rather prefer 2 s set not least as LW servo and RX are harder to come by
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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby tiptipflyer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:03 am

My Pageboy is on the rather heavy side with an AUW of 121g. It ballances at 33%, which is 32mm from the LE. I use a 2S350 for 15+ min. flying time, or a 2S200 Lipo for 10 min flying time. Prop is a 3x3.

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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby Phil_G » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:29 pm

I think thats mine in your second picture Tobe!
Superb flyer, I nearly lost it earlier this year, I'd forgotten it has a VD5M indoor receiver... with no failsafe, when I flew it out of range it just kept on going!
Luckily eagle-eyed Chloe was with me that day & she found it under the largest tree in the park!
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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby Tobe » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:06 am

It sure is yours Phil! Here together with the downsized Sharkie.
With my PageBoys I have kept the wing span equal to the fuselage length.
Here are a few pics of my favorite setups for "mini airplanes"
For those of you that would like to give S/C a shot especially if using an Adams or Adams clone but not necessarily I would suggest The Littlest Stick.
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...as the GG actuators need up to 150 mA I prefere a Rx with regular connectors
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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby exuprider » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:07 pm

First up: A big thank you for all the info on CG, and the other info on power setups. It's really useful to know what setups already work for the little 'ns.

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Main construction pretty much done


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Just beginning to fit it out now


There'll be a slight pause as I await a few bits from Hobbyking. Haven't decided whether to have a hatch or not so not sheeted top of nose area yet.

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Re: Pageboy Build

Postby Tobe » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:26 pm

Sheet the top and put in a double bottom and insert the battery from underneath and just have a piece of velcro to hold the battery in place
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